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CNL Jack Oniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 11:50:00 -
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You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee
from EULA |
CNL Jack Oniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:08:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:I don't know what worries me more.
The incident or the vast amount of players rallying in it's defence because they just can't see why it was over the line.
The staggering amount of people who actually are admitting they would cal "JUMP" to someone standing on a ledge is far more concerning than the incident at hand.
Looking back I see people jumping in defence of Mittens actions at the Fanfest like there was no tomorrow.
Now Mittens appologised for his words. Realising that the behaviour was unacceptable. Yet some people still feel the need to defend a mistake someone made.
After Mittani's appology, do you still hold on to your defences that there was nothing to appologise about?
If you want to give his appology any credebility then why are you working so darn hard to devaluate his appology?
If u notice the only people coming to his defence are goons and friends the majority of eve think that this time he has stepped to far . He has always walked a tight line sometimes but this time just 1 step to far . The fact that he has not stepped down already shows the he does not really care. If He himself does not want to promote this kind of stuff once again he should have stepped down oh wait he has not . |
CNL Jack Oniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:16:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:CNL Jack Oniel wrote:If u notice the only people coming to his defence are goons and friends the majority of eve think that this time he has stepped to far . He has always walked a tight line sometimes but this time just 1 step to far . The fact that he has not stepped down already shows the he does not really care. If He himself does not want to promote this kind of stuff once again he should have stepped down oh wait he has not . No, plenty of sensible people have stepped forward to defend him. You "one step too far" idiots sound like you haven't even seen the video, you're just very easily shocked people trying to kick up a fuss because you have nothing better to do.
so what you are saying if a friend of yours was feeling depressed and somebody else encouraged people to make that person actually go ahead and top himself and he did then you would be ok with that . I am sure u would not . |
CNL Jack Oniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:54:00 -
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Allataria wrote:Issler should resign for trying to spin the story for his own gain.
People need to learn the difference between griefing and cyber bullying. This was griefing not cyber bullying.
grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersGÇÖ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.
This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars. The EVE universe is a harsh universe largely driven by such conflict and notice must be taken of the fact that nonconsensual combat alone is not considered to be grief play per the above definition.
An example of grief play would be the so called "Can baiting" in starter systems. An experienced player drops a cargo container with some items in front of a station in a starter system and waits for a new player to take from it. The new player is flagged and promptly attacked and killed by the owner of the container. Doing the same in starter tutorial complexes is also considered grief play and will not be tolerated.
well if that is the case here is what something else is in the CCP EULA
I just want to make something known here i have nothing against Mittani but all you guys defending him and coming up with other things is just making him seem worse . |
CNL Jack Oniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:28:00 -
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Manssell wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:Manssell wrote:
So calling on people to blow up someones internet spaceships, in a game about blowing up internet spaceships is now "cyber bullying"? If that's the case then most acts of war in game are "cyber bullying", and letting these media outlets that are reporting that define what we can do in game really would for the first time be the "death of EVE".
I understand your point but let me explain it a different way. It reaches the point of "bullying" when the offender knows the guy is depressed and suicidal and calls upon thousands of people to do just that. It's AKA harassment. I'm kinda playing devil's advocate here, but if we go down this path would't that mean any miner with a ship name of "I"m suicidal" couldn't be ganked then? Or if an alliance leader made a blog post saying how depressed they where, and how the alliance was the only thing that kept them alive, would't that mean no one who read that could war dec them (a war dec is just calling on thousands of people to harass someone right)? I mean it is EVE, people would do that. I think the problem is we are in a really grey area here and what I don't like seeing is all the spin to make this out as the worst case scenario of bullying for political gain which in the long run may hurt the cold harsh universe of EVE most of us love.
there is a distinct difference between using in game mechanics to fight somebody and being public about it in front of thousands of people come on guys this is not the fact that mittani sent a mail to somebody in game or smacked talked in local so lets try not to put it on the same level . |
CNL Jack Oniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:31:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Arakkis Melanogaster wrote:Taihbea wrote:By EULA he should get a ban on all his accounts.
If that doesn't happen then CCP just pretty much stated that they suck dicks.
If you wrote a law that you don't follow yet you come with big words on fanfest how ******* much you care to make this game better then you're nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. all your bot wars, plex selling wars mean **** compared to this.
You let a guy publicly harras other person. Is the bible the real life EULA of which you speak? id like to know what iceladic law says about cyber bullying tbh...
You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
allready posted this once before come on guys read the EULA before you ask something |
CNL Jack Oniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:40:00 -
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Karim alRashid wrote:CNL Jack Oniel wrote:GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Arakkis Melanogaster wrote:Taihbea wrote:By EULA he should get a ban on all his accounts.
If that doesn't happen then CCP just pretty much stated that they suck dicks.
If you wrote a law that you don't follow yet you come with big words on fanfest how ******* much you care to make this game better then you're nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. all your bot wars, plex selling wars mean **** compared to this.
You let a guy publicly harras other person. Is the bible the real life EULA of which you speak? id like to know what iceladic law says about cyber bullying tbh... You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee. allready posted this once before come on guys read the EULA before you ask something Strange, I looked at the EULA http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/eula.asp , but didn't find the part you're quoting.
http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp there u go it is linked for those that think i have just made it up lol |
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